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		<title>By: Booming CTB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booming CTB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't count on influx of boomers
By JAMES THORNER, (Un)Real Estate
Published January 11, 2008
Saint Pete Times

Has any group been more analyzed than the baby boomer generation, that demographic bulge moving through our body politic like a bunny through a boa constrictor? 

As if those 76-million Americans born between 1946 and 1964 didn't get enough attention, they're now being asked to do the seemingly impossible: restore Florida real estate to its glory. 

You couldn't button-hole a Realtor last year without getting an earful about the baby boomer as Housing Industry Messiah. The assumption is that creaking joints and Florida warmth go together like bacon and eggs. All those boomers entering their 60s will abandon Icy Forge, N.Y., for Florida's year-round golf. 

The first boomers turn 62 this year. Over the next 18 years, an average of 4-million boomers a year will reach that magic age. 

Housing analyst Tony Polito pushed the boomer theme at a lunch by Tampa Bay Builders Association this week. Polito argues that as boomers retire, about 20 percent plan to change homes. That's 800,000 people thrust annually onto the market. Twenty percent of that group could retire to Florida. By that logic, 160,000 people will arrive each year. 

If true, that's good news for the Florida housing industry. Forbes magazine has dubbed Tampa the No. 1 place in the nation to retire. But forgive me some skepticism. These surveys assume retirees' tastes are cryogenically frozen. Who says the retiree of 2015 will mimic the Detroit autoworker retirees who settled in Pinellas County in the 1990s? 

A MetLife survey confirmed that about a quarter of boomers plan to move. Dig deeper and you learn most respondents said they'd move within their own state - not surprising when you realize that millions migrated to the Sun Belt during their working years. 

Twenty percent of migrating retirees did choose Florida in 2000. By last year, it was down to about 13 percent. Maybe higher taxes turned people off. Maybe it's the hurricanes. 

But there's nothing more dangerous than predicting the changing tastes of America's Second Greatest Generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t count on influx of boomers<br />
By JAMES THORNER, (Un)Real Estate<br />
Published January 11, 2008<br />
Saint Pete Times</p>
<p>Has any group been more analyzed than the baby boomer generation, that demographic bulge moving through our body politic like a bunny through a boa constrictor? </p>
<p>As if those 76-million Americans born between 1946 and 1964 didn&#8217;t get enough attention, they&#8217;re now being asked to do the seemingly impossible: restore Florida real estate to its glory. </p>
<p>You couldn&#8217;t button-hole a Realtor last year without getting an earful about the baby boomer as Housing Industry Messiah. The assumption is that creaking joints and Florida warmth go together like bacon and eggs. All those boomers entering their 60s will abandon Icy Forge, N.Y., for Florida&#8217;s year-round golf. </p>
<p>The first boomers turn 62 this year. Over the next 18 years, an average of 4-million boomers a year will reach that magic age. </p>
<p>Housing analyst Tony Polito pushed the boomer theme at a lunch by Tampa Bay Builders Association this week. Polito argues that as boomers retire, about 20 percent plan to change homes. That&#8217;s 800,000 people thrust annually onto the market. Twenty percent of that group could retire to Florida. By that logic, 160,000 people will arrive each year. </p>
<p>If true, that&#8217;s good news for the Florida housing industry. Forbes magazine has dubbed Tampa the No. 1 place in the nation to retire. But forgive me some skepticism. These surveys assume retirees&#8217; tastes are cryogenically frozen. Who says the retiree of 2015 will mimic the Detroit autoworker retirees who settled in Pinellas County in the 1990s? </p>
<p>A MetLife survey confirmed that about a quarter of boomers plan to move. Dig deeper and you learn most respondents said they&#8217;d move within their own state - not surprising when you realize that millions migrated to the Sun Belt during their working years. </p>
<p>Twenty percent of migrating retirees did choose Florida in 2000. By last year, it was down to about 13 percent. Maybe higher taxes turned people off. Maybe it&#8217;s the hurricanes. </p>
<p>But there&#8217;s nothing more dangerous than predicting the changing tastes of America&#8217;s Second Greatest Generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Boomer Glee Club</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boomer Glee Club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLease then take less then a day to approve comments, and consider some day fixing the page format issue that has lignered for months.</description>
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		<title>By: pro-creative</title>
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		<dc:creator>pro-creative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moderator's note to the poster above: Your comments were not deleted, but they *are* held for approval after you submit them, which can cause a delay in their appearance on the website. -MV</description>
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		<title>By: Booming CTB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booming CTB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Important quotes from 
Retiree Flow To Florida Slows
By MICHAEL SASSO, The Tampa Tribune
Published: December 20, 2007

There may be something to his impromptu surveys. Florida has been losing ground as a retirement destination since at least 1980, but recent U.S. Census data suggest the state's appeal among retirees is starting to slip further.

There's debate about whether Florida even needs more retirees. The state now has about 4.1 million seniors, or about 23 percent of its population of 18 million, according to the Florida Department of Elder Affairs. 

Being a retiree haven hurts Florida's schools, some state economic development leaders say, because some seniors oppose tax increases to fund education. Denslow said retirees also create a demand for low-paying service jobs - with the exception of health care workers - and create less demand for high-paying scientists, engineers and managers. That's because those highly-paid professionals often work for companies that serve national and international markets, not local markets, David Denslow, an economist at the University of Florida's Bureau of Economic and Business Research said.

Offtopic, a question from me and  not a quote. Will CTB erase this post for a 4th time or have the guts to deal with publically available information?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Important quotes from<br />
Retiree Flow To Florida Slows<br />
By MICHAEL SASSO, The Tampa Tribune<br />
Published: December 20, 2007</p>
<p>There may be something to his impromptu surveys. Florida has been losing ground as a retirement destination since at least 1980, but recent U.S. Census data suggest the state&#8217;s appeal among retirees is starting to slip further.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s debate about whether Florida even needs more retirees. The state now has about 4.1 million seniors, or about 23 percent of its population of 18 million, according to the Florida Department of Elder Affairs. </p>
<p>Being a retiree haven hurts Florida&#8217;s schools, some state economic development leaders say, because some seniors oppose tax increases to fund education. Denslow said retirees also create a demand for low-paying service jobs - with the exception of health care workers - and create less demand for high-paying scientists, engineers and managers. That&#8217;s because those highly-paid professionals often work for companies that serve national and international markets, not local markets, David Denslow, an economist at the University of Florida&#8217;s Bureau of Economic and Business Research said.</p>
<p>Offtopic, a question from me and  not a quote. Will CTB erase this post for a 4th time or have the guts to deal with publically available information?</p>
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		<title>By: Booming CTB</title>
		<link>http://www.creativetampabay.com/archives/287#comment-19941</link>
		<dc:creator>Booming CTB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget Florida and Arizona: More baby boomers are heading West 
By MEAD GRUVER 
Associated Press Writer

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FL_AGING_WEST_FLOL-?SITE=FLTAM&#38;SECTION=US

Retiree Flow To Florida Slows
By MICHAEL SASSO, The Tampa Tribune
Published: December 20, 2007

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/dec/20/na-pipeline-of-seniors-to-florida-slows/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget Florida and Arizona: More baby boomers are heading West<br />
By MEAD GRUVER<br />
Associated Press Writer</p>
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<p>Retiree Flow To Florida Slows<br />
By MICHAEL SASSO, The Tampa Tribune<br />
Published: December 20, 2007</p>
<p><a href="http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/dec/20/na-pipeline-of-seniors-to-florida-slows/" rel="nofollow">http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/dec/20/na-pipeline-of-seniors-to-florida-slows/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doris Reeves-Lipscomb</title>
		<link>http://www.creativetampabay.com/archives/287#comment-19925</link>
		<dc:creator>Doris Reeves-Lipscomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deanne's column is provoking me to write...I love the top ten list for creative communities but take issue with where she winds up.

Deanne emphasizes that creative communities have high concentrations of "lots of young people aged 24-35 who are both the workhorses and show horses of the workforce."  I agree.  

Deanne praises baby boomers for their seeking "to reinvent themselves in the third act of life," and that "we have huge opportunities to become a far more creative communityâ€”on so many of the levels described above."  I couldn't agree more.  

But then Deanne takes part of that vision away by saying "weâ€™ll be looking for ways to link young talent to this older market with their vast numbers, experience, renewed energy and financial resources."  That linkage has value, I agree.  And there are many ways to be creative.  But to me, it suggests that talent only flows one way, and that baby boomers are best at underwriting the creativity of younger people! 

Why not link baby boomers to baby boomers to create a potentially even greater impact?  Why not help restructure employment opportunities to enable well-educated, highly successful baby boomers to come here from other creative climes and apply their insight to our community needs and issues and industries?  Many baby boomers have some resources but aren't ready to retire.  They wish to use their hard-won skills and interests to do something meaningful, earn some money and health benefits, and enjoy schedule flexibility, as well as the Florida environment.  But these opportunities don't yet exist for them, or the innovative young parent who wishes to work part-time.

Baby boomers are work horses and showhorses, too, and may be better equipped to take risks than the younger age group.  In my third act, I am an online facilitator, helping nonprofit and public sector groups around the world to engage online to stay focused on their mission, learn faster, build knowledge, improve performance, and strengthen their connections to their peers--in-house experts--whenever they need help.  I love my work and am not done yet.  

Maybe I'll learn to play the piano next or start painting--after all, no one would have bet on me--a computer phobic ten years ago--to do what I am now doing--we are all capable of expressing ourselves in new and beneficial ways if the circumstances encourage us enough.  

Thanks for the leadership all of you are providing to our corner of the world.  Your work matters!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deanne&#8217;s column is provoking me to write&#8230;I love the top ten list for creative communities but take issue with where she winds up.</p>
<p>Deanne emphasizes that creative communities have high concentrations of &#8220;lots of young people aged 24-35 who are both the workhorses and show horses of the workforce.&#8221;  I agree.  </p>
<p>Deanne praises baby boomers for their seeking &#8220;to reinvent themselves in the third act of life,&#8221; and that &#8220;we have huge opportunities to become a far more creative communityâ€”on so many of the levels described above.&#8221;  I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  </p>
<p>But then Deanne takes part of that vision away by saying &#8220;weâ€™ll be looking for ways to link young talent to this older market with their vast numbers, experience, renewed energy and financial resources.&#8221;  That linkage has value, I agree.  And there are many ways to be creative.  But to me, it suggests that talent only flows one way, and that baby boomers are best at underwriting the creativity of younger people! </p>
<p>Why not link baby boomers to baby boomers to create a potentially even greater impact?  Why not help restructure employment opportunities to enable well-educated, highly successful baby boomers to come here from other creative climes and apply their insight to our community needs and issues and industries?  Many baby boomers have some resources but aren&#8217;t ready to retire.  They wish to use their hard-won skills and interests to do something meaningful, earn some money and health benefits, and enjoy schedule flexibility, as well as the Florida environment.  But these opportunities don&#8217;t yet exist for them, or the innovative young parent who wishes to work part-time.</p>
<p>Baby boomers are work horses and showhorses, too, and may be better equipped to take risks than the younger age group.  In my third act, I am an online facilitator, helping nonprofit and public sector groups around the world to engage online to stay focused on their mission, learn faster, build knowledge, improve performance, and strengthen their connections to their peers&#8211;in-house experts&#8211;whenever they need help.  I love my work and am not done yet.  </p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll learn to play the piano next or start painting&#8211;after all, no one would have bet on me&#8211;a computer phobic ten years ago&#8211;to do what I am now doing&#8211;we are all capable of expressing ourselves in new and beneficial ways if the circumstances encourage us enough.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the leadership all of you are providing to our corner of the world.  Your work matters!</p>
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		<title>By: Eliot</title>
		<link>http://www.creativetampabay.com/archives/287#comment-19923</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the new format, very easy to sift and read.</description>
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		<title>By: Boomer highlights</title>
		<link>http://www.creativetampabay.com/archives/287#comment-19922</link>
		<dc:creator>Boomer highlights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boomers Turning Northwest To Head For Retirement 

By MEAD GRUVER 
Associated Press Writer
28 December 2007

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FL_AGING_WEST_FLOL-?SITE=FLTAM&#38;SECTION=US</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boomers Turning Northwest To Head For Retirement </p>
<p>By MEAD GRUVER<br />
Associated Press Writer<br />
28 December 2007</p>
<p><a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FL_AGING_WEST_FLOL-?SITE=FLTAM&amp;SECTION=US" rel="nofollow">http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FL_AGING_WEST_FLOL-?SITE=FLTAM&amp;SECTION=US</a></p>
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		<title>By: Boomer highlights</title>
		<link>http://www.creativetampabay.com/archives/287#comment-19919</link>
		<dc:creator>Boomer highlights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Above
1) 
Denslow said retirees also create a demand for low-paying service jobs - with the exception of health care workers - and create less demand for high-paying scientists, engineers and managers. Thatâ€™s because those highly-paid professionals often work for companies that serve national and international markets, not local markets, Denslow said.

2) Thereâ€™s debate about whether Florida even needs more retirees. The state now has about 4.1 million seniors, or about 23 percent of its population of 18 million, according to the Florida Department of Elder Affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Above<br />
1)<br />
Denslow said retirees also create a demand for low-paying service jobs - with the exception of health care workers - and create less demand for high-paying scientists, engineers and managers. Thatâ€™s because those highly-paid professionals often work for companies that serve national and international markets, not local markets, Denslow said.</p>
<p>2) Thereâ€™s debate about whether Florida even needs more retirees. The state now has about 4.1 million seniors, or about 23 percent of its population of 18 million, according to the Florida Department of Elder Affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Boomer wave?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boomer wave?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Front page of the Tampa Tribune 20 Dec. 2008 in regards to Creative Tampa Bay's 2008 focus:

Retiree Flow to Florida Slows

By MICHAEL SASSO, The Tampa Tribune
Published: December 20, 2007

SUN CITY CENTER - Retirees used to view Florida as the land of sun, golf and the good life. But these days, Florida sometimes gets a different reaction.

"What I hear from people is, 'Oh, I wouldn't move to Florida with all those hurricanes,'" said Paul Wheat, 69, president of the Sun City Center Community Association and a Florida fan.

If they're not complaining about Florida's hurricanes, Northern seniors occasionally cite concern about Florida's sinkholes, expensive housing, and high property taxes and insurance, Wheat said.

There may be something to his impromptu surveys. Florida has been losing ground as a retirement destination since at least 1980, but recent U.S. Census data suggest the state's appeal among retirees is starting to slip further.

Don Bradley, a sociologist at East Carolina University who has studied retirement migration, said in 2006 that Florida attracted an estimated 13 percent of people 56 and older who moved across state lines. 

That was down from about 16 percent in 2005. Figures from 2000 show that Florida received 19 percent of migrating seniors.
Until 2006, 

Florida had led the nation in the "net migration" of people 56 and older (people moving into the state minus people moving out), according to Bradley's analysis. However, in 2006 Florida fell to fourth in the nation in net migration of seniors, after Texas, Georgia and North Carolina. 

Florida fell because fewer seniors moved into the state last year than in previous year, while more seniors left the state.

While hurricanes and a higher cost of living have hurt Florida, other Southern states appear to be picking off Florida's share of retirees through tax incentives, marketing plans and other incentives.

Other States Trying Harder
Florida developers continue to market to the retirement-minded. But Florida's state government has no formal effort to lure the coming wave of Baby Boomer retirees, according to calls to several Florida government agencies.

A big question: Even if Florida resolves its tax and insurance problems, has the retirement momentum shifted elsewhere for the long term?

"Florida's been sort of the big kid on the block for so long," said Charles Longino Jr., an expert on retirement migration at Wake Forest University. "But other states are trying harder now, so it's bound to affect the outcome."

There's debate about whether Florida even needs more retirees. The state now has about 4.1 million seniors, or about 23 percent of its population of 18 million, according to the Florida Department of Elder Affairs.

 That may swell as the Baby Boom generation retires.
The United States generated about 2 million new retirees in 2000, according to a report by David Denslow, an economist at the University of Florida's Bureau of Economic and Business Research. 

That will grow to about 2.6 million per year in 2010 and swell to 3.5 million per year in 2025. That should increase demand for Florida, Denslow said.

Being a retiree haven hurts Florida's schools, some state economic development leaders say, because some seniors oppose tax increases to fund education. 

Denslow said retirees also create a demand for low-paying service jobs - with the exception of health care workers - and create less demand for high-paying scientists, engineers and managers. That's because those highly-paid professionals often work for companies that serve national and international markets, not local markets, Denslow said.

Still, retirees are a plus for state economies, Denslow and other economists say. Retirees cost states money for Medicaid, but generally require less in state and local services. Generally, retirees provide $4 in revenue for every $3 they cost in government services, Denslow said.

With that in mind, neighboring state governments and private developers are aggressively courting Baby Boomers. For example:

In Georgia. Gov. Sonny Perdue has been pushing the state's legislature to exempt income from retirement plans from Georgia's state income tax. Starting next year, the first $35,000 in retirement income will be exempt from the tax. Perdue wants the legislature to exempt all retirement income, said Bert Brantley, the governor's press secretary. "It's certainly meant to help attract retirees to the state," Brantley said. "The governor sees it as a revenue-positive idea."

In Tennessee, the state's economic development department has a new initiative called "Retire Tennessee." The state has chosen nine largely-rural communities that have amenities and lifestyles for retirees and is helping them market themselves as retirement destinations. Among them is Chattanooga. The state also is sending representatives to retirement-related trade shows nationwide and is advertising in Southern Living magazine.

In North Carolina one of the hottest retirement destinations is the Asheville region. Richard Lutovsky, president of the Asheville Area Chamber of Commerce, estimated his area has up to 30 planned communities under development, half of which are estimated to have golf courses. Retirees may buy many of the homes, he said.

'Florida's Slipping'
One new Tennessee retiree is Laura Imboden, a 57-year-old from Colorado's ski country. In the past 18 months, she and her husband have toured the country in an RV, but come July, they will retire to Tellico Village, a planned community in eastern Tennessee. Tennessee's close to family across the Midwest and Northeast and has relatively low taxes, she said.
"Florida had entered our minds," Imboden said. "Most people from Colorado retire in Arizona, but we knew that Arizona was farther than where we wanted to be. And so is Florida. And it's just so hot there in the summer."

Developers that have retirement communities in Florida and actively market to retirees include Del Webb, a division of Pulte Homes, Inc., and WCI Communities, Inc. Company representatives did not return calls for this story.

How many other new retirees will pass over Florida is anyone's guess. 

But William Haas, a sociologist at the University of North Carolina-Asheville, has studied Census data and found that in 2006 Georgia attracted 2.78 people aged 60 or older for every person who left the state. In contrast, Florida attracted 1.12 people aged 60 or older for every person who left the same year.
Haas' conclusion: "Florida's slipping."

Five years ago, former Gov. Jeb Bush created a commission called Destination Florida to find ways to keep the retiree pipeline flowing. Among its recommendations was freezing property tax increases for people 55 and older. The tax increases would be deferred until death, when the person's estate would pay the deferred amount.
It also recommended eliminating the intangibles tax on stocks and bonds, and having Florida's Department of Elder Affairs get more involved in the state's economic development arm, Enterprise Florida.

The state eventually nixed the intangibles tax, but commission Chairman T. O'Neal Douglas said most of its recommendations were never enacted. Douglas declined further comment.

Representatives of Enterprise Florida, Elder Affairs, and Visit Florida, the state's tourism agency, said their agencies have no marketing program to attract seniors, and it's not a formal economic development goal.

Douglas Beach, secretary of the Department of Elder Affairs, said the state is working with its cities and counties to make Florida more attractive for young and old alike, part of a program called Communities for a Lifetime. 

An example is putting in larger street signs to help seniors, Beach said. Also, Florida is starting an effort to attract out-of-state health care workers to the state, Beach said.

Back in Sun City Center, a handful of seniors were molding ceramics during a morning arts and crafts class. Their prediction: Florida will never lose its luster for retirees.

Even Atlanta is too cold for Nan Burgett, who moved here from Atlanta nine years ago.
"I would never move back," she said. "I love the weather here.
"We came down here because we fell in love with it," said Terri Wherle, who moved to Sun City Center two and a half years ago from Ohio. "I do not miss shoveling 20 foot of snow at all."

Reporter Michael Sasso can be reached at (813) 259-7865 or msasso@tampatrib.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Front page of the Tampa Tribune 20 Dec. 2008 in regards to Creative Tampa Bay&#8217;s 2008 focus:</p>
<p>Retiree Flow to Florida Slows</p>
<p>By MICHAEL SASSO, The Tampa Tribune<br />
Published: December 20, 2007</p>
<p>SUN CITY CENTER - Retirees used to view Florida as the land of sun, golf and the good life. But these days, Florida sometimes gets a different reaction.</p>
<p>&#8220;What I hear from people is, &#8216;Oh, I wouldn&#8217;t move to Florida with all those hurricanes,&#8217;&#8221; said Paul Wheat, 69, president of the Sun City Center Community Association and a Florida fan.</p>
<p>If they&#8217;re not complaining about Florida&#8217;s hurricanes, Northern seniors occasionally cite concern about Florida&#8217;s sinkholes, expensive housing, and high property taxes and insurance, Wheat said.</p>
<p>There may be something to his impromptu surveys. Florida has been losing ground as a retirement destination since at least 1980, but recent U.S. Census data suggest the state&#8217;s appeal among retirees is starting to slip further.</p>
<p>Don Bradley, a sociologist at East Carolina University who has studied retirement migration, said in 2006 that Florida attracted an estimated 13 percent of people 56 and older who moved across state lines. </p>
<p>That was down from about 16 percent in 2005. Figures from 2000 show that Florida received 19 percent of migrating seniors.<br />
Until 2006, </p>
<p>Florida had led the nation in the &#8220;net migration&#8221; of people 56 and older (people moving into the state minus people moving out), according to Bradley&#8217;s analysis. However, in 2006 Florida fell to fourth in the nation in net migration of seniors, after Texas, Georgia and North Carolina. </p>
<p>Florida fell because fewer seniors moved into the state last year than in previous year, while more seniors left the state.</p>
<p>While hurricanes and a higher cost of living have hurt Florida, other Southern states appear to be picking off Florida&#8217;s share of retirees through tax incentives, marketing plans and other incentives.</p>
<p>Other States Trying Harder<br />
Florida developers continue to market to the retirement-minded. But Florida&#8217;s state government has no formal effort to lure the coming wave of Baby Boomer retirees, according to calls to several Florida government agencies.</p>
<p>A big question: Even if Florida resolves its tax and insurance problems, has the retirement momentum shifted elsewhere for the long term?</p>
<p>&#8220;Florida&#8217;s been sort of the big kid on the block for so long,&#8221; said Charles Longino Jr., an expert on retirement migration at Wake Forest University. &#8220;But other states are trying harder now, so it&#8217;s bound to affect the outcome.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s debate about whether Florida even needs more retirees. The state now has about 4.1 million seniors, or about 23 percent of its population of 18 million, according to the Florida Department of Elder Affairs.</p>
<p> That may swell as the Baby Boom generation retires.<br />
The United States generated about 2 million new retirees in 2000, according to a report by David Denslow, an economist at the University of Florida&#8217;s Bureau of Economic and Business Research. </p>
<p>That will grow to about 2.6 million per year in 2010 and swell to 3.5 million per year in 2025. That should increase demand for Florida, Denslow said.</p>
<p>Being a retiree haven hurts Florida&#8217;s schools, some state economic development leaders say, because some seniors oppose tax increases to fund education. </p>
<p>Denslow said retirees also create a demand for low-paying service jobs - with the exception of health care workers - and create less demand for high-paying scientists, engineers and managers. That&#8217;s because those highly-paid professionals often work for companies that serve national and international markets, not local markets, Denslow said.</p>
<p>Still, retirees are a plus for state economies, Denslow and other economists say. Retirees cost states money for Medicaid, but generally require less in state and local services. Generally, retirees provide $4 in revenue for every $3 they cost in government services, Denslow said.</p>
<p>With that in mind, neighboring state governments and private developers are aggressively courting Baby Boomers. For example:</p>
<p>In Georgia. Gov. Sonny Perdue has been pushing the state&#8217;s legislature to exempt income from retirement plans from Georgia&#8217;s state income tax. Starting next year, the first $35,000 in retirement income will be exempt from the tax. Perdue wants the legislature to exempt all retirement income, said Bert Brantley, the governor&#8217;s press secretary. &#8220;It&#8217;s certainly meant to help attract retirees to the state,&#8221; Brantley said. &#8220;The governor sees it as a revenue-positive idea.&#8221;</p>
<p>In Tennessee, the state&#8217;s economic development department has a new initiative called &#8220;Retire Tennessee.&#8221; The state has chosen nine largely-rural communities that have amenities and lifestyles for retirees and is helping them market themselves as retirement destinations. Among them is Chattanooga. The state also is sending representatives to retirement-related trade shows nationwide and is advertising in Southern Living magazine.</p>
<p>In North Carolina one of the hottest retirement destinations is the Asheville region. Richard Lutovsky, president of the Asheville Area Chamber of Commerce, estimated his area has up to 30 planned communities under development, half of which are estimated to have golf courses. Retirees may buy many of the homes, he said.</p>
<p>&#8216;Florida&#8217;s Slipping&#8217;<br />
One new Tennessee retiree is Laura Imboden, a 57-year-old from Colorado&#8217;s ski country. In the past 18 months, she and her husband have toured the country in an RV, but come July, they will retire to Tellico Village, a planned community in eastern Tennessee. Tennessee&#8217;s close to family across the Midwest and Northeast and has relatively low taxes, she said.<br />
&#8220;Florida had entered our minds,&#8221; Imboden said. &#8220;Most people from Colorado retire in Arizona, but we knew that Arizona was farther than where we wanted to be. And so is Florida. And it&#8217;s just so hot there in the summer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Developers that have retirement communities in Florida and actively market to retirees include Del Webb, a division of Pulte Homes, Inc., and WCI Communities, Inc. Company representatives did not return calls for this story.</p>
<p>How many other new retirees will pass over Florida is anyone&#8217;s guess. </p>
<p>But William Haas, a sociologist at the University of North Carolina-Asheville, has studied Census data and found that in 2006 Georgia attracted 2.78 people aged 60 or older for every person who left the state. In contrast, Florida attracted 1.12 people aged 60 or older for every person who left the same year.<br />
Haas&#8217; conclusion: &#8220;Florida&#8217;s slipping.&#8221;</p>
<p>Five years ago, former Gov. Jeb Bush created a commission called Destination Florida to find ways to keep the retiree pipeline flowing. Among its recommendations was freezing property tax increases for people 55 and older. The tax increases would be deferred until death, when the person&#8217;s estate would pay the deferred amount.<br />
It also recommended eliminating the intangibles tax on stocks and bonds, and having Florida&#8217;s Department of Elder Affairs get more involved in the state&#8217;s economic development arm, Enterprise Florida.</p>
<p>The state eventually nixed the intangibles tax, but commission Chairman T. O&#8217;Neal Douglas said most of its recommendations were never enacted. Douglas declined further comment.</p>
<p>Representatives of Enterprise Florida, Elder Affairs, and Visit Florida, the state&#8217;s tourism agency, said their agencies have no marketing program to attract seniors, and it&#8217;s not a formal economic development goal.</p>
<p>Douglas Beach, secretary of the Department of Elder Affairs, said the state is working with its cities and counties to make Florida more attractive for young and old alike, part of a program called Communities for a Lifetime. </p>
<p>An example is putting in larger street signs to help seniors, Beach said. Also, Florida is starting an effort to attract out-of-state health care workers to the state, Beach said.</p>
<p>Back in Sun City Center, a handful of seniors were molding ceramics during a morning arts and crafts class. Their prediction: Florida will never lose its luster for retirees.</p>
<p>Even Atlanta is too cold for Nan Burgett, who moved here from Atlanta nine years ago.<br />
&#8220;I would never move back,&#8221; she said. &#8220;I love the weather here.<br />
&#8220;We came down here because we fell in love with it,&#8221; said Terri Wherle, who moved to Sun City Center two and a half years ago from Ohio. &#8220;I do not miss shoveling 20 foot of snow at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reporter Michael Sasso can be reached at (813) 259-7865 or <a href="mailto:msasso@tampatrib.com">msasso@tampatrib.com</a>.</p>
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